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Preston Thompson - Posted - 12/03/2010: 09:15:20
Now that I got you're attention just to let y'all know, I email Eric and asked him how much work would be involved to have to separate catagories with SN and RN dobros. It seems when a thread starts talking dobro, most of us think SN. Then after 15 post it's figured out the topic was RN, to which I know nothing.
Do y'all have any thoughts on this.
pt
badger - Posted - 12/03/2010: 09:31:13
Given that the mechanics are identical except for string height on spider-bridge models, it might just be easier for people to identify whether square or round neck instruments when posting. I don't see the benefit to adding another layer of division to sort through.
Steevarino - Posted - 12/03/2010: 10:08:10
Man, I thought this thread was going to be about cats! You ARE a sneaky one, Preston....
I'll bet what brought this up was the recent thread by that zoot fellah' about his string height. I noticed you asked "how could your strings be too high?", or something like that. That's why my next question to him was just whether it was SN or RN. Sure enough, it turned out to be an RN.
No real opinion about it here. I think as time goes by, maybe we can all train ourselves to state which kind of guitar the poster is talking about. Either that, or we have to learn to ask fast if it is left out.
However, having said that, I suppose it would work to have a "Round Neck Only" section, or something like that on this site.
Catch you cats later,
Steve
Steevarino - Posted - 12/03/2010: 10:41:05
Well, since the subject of cats came up, I figured I'd stretch a bit farther here. Our dog, Molly, was particularly active in the guitar building happenings at our shop yesterday, so we took a few pictures. Here's one, you can see some more over on our "Member's" page. Any of you that have visited the shop in the past year or so have most likely already rubbed paws with Molly.
cecilpwv - Posted - 12/03/2010: 12:24:19
Good idea Preston. Sure this is not just a sneaky way to keep the blues talk to a minimum? ;^)
Alternatively, we can send the RN'ers over to the Flatpicker Hangout.
Or maybe a Miscellaneous Hangout, with RN, Weissie, lap, harmonica, and spoons!
Preston Thompson - Posted - 12/03/2010: 13:11:57
Badger..........the part to me that is so different is the RN neck as a rule is tuned like the "spanish" guitar. As we all know the SN is not. Then when conversation starts about the E, is it Greg's dropped E, or the guitar E? Maybe I'm just getting old but I do get confused pretty easy.
Pat.......I like you idea better. Miscellaneoue thread to be all inclusive. Even washtub bass.
MapleNuts - Posted - 12/03/2010: 13:53:13
Preston, It is a good idea, although people need to be specific what instrument, SN or RN they are referring to. I am very new here, and when I first got here I did not know the difference between square neck or round neck, so I did not know what to call the guitar I was referring to. I did not even know that a square neck guitar even existed. Maybe by having 2 categories or cats, I would have been aware of the 2 different types of guitar, so it might actually help. Just my 2 cents as a beginner.
Grizz - Posted - 12/03/2010: 15:09:31
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Originally posted by cecilpwv
Sure this is not just a sneaky way to keep the blues talk to a minimum? ;^
FYI : Bluegrass pioneer Bill Monroe characterized the genre: "Scottish bagpipes and ole-time fiddlin'. It's Methodist and Holiness and Baptist. It's blues and jazz, and it has a high lonesome sound. It's plain music that tells a good story. It's played from my heart to your heart, and it will touch you. Bluegrass is music that matters."
OMG it has roots in blues and Jazz
Edited by - Grizz on 12/03/2010 15:09:56
Dean Upson - Posted - 12/03/2010: 15:35:30
Separate would be a good idea, Preston. Less confusion, IMO.
Dean
Preston Thompson - Posted - 12/03/2010: 16:26:57
Mike, I get your point and it's well taken. But my point here is the two different guitars. Just the guitars, not the music played on either.
p
Grizz - Posted - 12/03/2010: 16:44:06
I really don't want to belabor the point, I just think that it would be a shame for the round neck players to maybe feel they were not a part of the community as a whole by "separating" them. Neither you nor I play round neck, but you know me I love music period, and I really enjoy them being here, love the music and even reading the threads. Hell, I learn something. (if you believe that I have some swamp land down your way for sale) You don't see them much on other sites (you know where I mean) I just know what it's like trying to find somewhere to fit in using the Wessie as and example. There are probably Tuba sites but .......................... Wessie???????? I guess i'm out there with H20 or whoever.
Edited by - Grizz on 12/03/2010 16:44:56
Bobby Branton - Posted - 12/03/2010: 17:23:30
I'm with Preston and Dean. I wind up having to read half a thread only to find out they are talking about a round neck, which is something I do not have any interest in.
That is why SGF has a forum for pedal steel and steel without pedals.
Dukasyo - Posted - 12/03/2010: 18:28:34
No big deal one way or the other I guess, but I'd I think I'd rather keep it as is. I don't have a RN reso right now, but I've had a couple in the past, they're still resos, a lot of the same stuff goes on regardless of playing style. In fact I'm building a RN biscuit bridge tenor guitar right now, and I get ideas, hints, tips from just about every post I read on this site no matter the topic. The free flow of info is great.
However, Preston is right, there are confusing moments sometimes. Like Badger says though, I guess we need to train ourselves to identify our instruments better at the outset of our posts.
And thanks, Mike for the nod to that very special instrument, least we forget, the mighty Tuba. and a hearty Oompah! to all.
Grizz - Posted - 12/03/2010: 18:42:48
Sorry but something just occurred to me. We have 7areas of discussion, do we now devide each of these between round and square neck? Just food for thought. OOMPAH back at ya' hehehe I think I sell everything, buy a Tuba and really drive the dogs and wife crazy. 
Edited by - Grizz on 12/03/2010 18:44:12
rolf - Posted - 12/04/2010: 00:45:04
Hey!
Preston, this is basically a great idea!
What about simply adding a checkbox or radio-button in the posting form where one can say if his posting is about RN or SN? Would avoid the separation thing and would help to get more clearance.
Just the 2ct. from a formerly web developer ...
Edited by - rolf on 12/04/2010 00:45:59
Preston Thompson - Posted - 12/04/2010: 06:28:07
Mercy.........just from a thought on a separation of threads, it's morphed into a crazy discussion. Never considered a tuba on here. And just because different instruments are talked about in two different treads, it befuddles me as to how the participants would not be considered all part of the family. How did it go there? When we have a cookout, everybody will come, but I bet cha a dime to a doughnut hole groups will form and the talk will be about the instruments they play. Whether it be a RN, SN or a tuba. Just like horses and cows in a pasture. They are all in the same field, but you will see them with their own kind. It stops confusion.
Oh well, it was just a thought.
Grizz - Posted - 12/04/2010: 08:16:08
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Originally posted by rolf
What about simply adding a checkbox or radio-button in the posting form where one can say if his posting is about RN or SN? Would avoid the separation thing and would help to get more clearance.
Just the 2ct. from a formerly web developer ...
Now there is a good idea. Damn, lighten up the Tuba thing was a joke. Preston, you need to pay more attention to what you are reading, I said "MAYBE they would feel" like not part of the family. It was a query. Therein lies the problem. If you skim over a post and don't read it carefully you jump to conclusions. I have done it as well. I never claimed nor do I now claim to be perfect. I agree about the scenario of the BBQ but that is apples and oranges. Yes, have a party with however many people and they will splinter off into groups of the same interest. But they do it. You don't tell them well you go over hear and you go over there. You invited them let them work it out. Hey, that is what these forums are suppose to be for, open banter and we don't all have to agree. We should be able to agree to disagree. There is no right or wrong here. This is only
MY opinion, leave it like it is, but if the powers that be want to change it, so be it, it's no big deal.
"Do y'all have any thoughts on this".
pt
Evidently I was wrong again I thought y'all meant everyone. I guess everyone but me. Remember Patch Adams.
Edited by - Grizz on 12/04/2010 10:55:00
schlange - Posted - 12/04/2010: 11:53:47
I think it would make sense to split "Playing Advice" into RN and SN, once the traffic levels to that forum reach sufficient numbers. Right now, though, there just aren't enough threads to warrant splitting it up.
To give you an example--on the Banjo Hangout, we have playing advice broken into 4 different distinct styles. But even the least popular of those 4 styles gets more posts in it than the "Playing" forum here does.
So that's my answer--if we get more activity in the forum, I'll happily consider splitting it. Until then, if you don't know what style they're asking about--just ask!
Preston Thompson - Posted - 12/04/2010: 13:00:15
Now there's an example of expression not being shown, Mike. I was kidding too. Sort of like. "why is everybody piling on". It just don't come across right.
Thanks Eric.
Grizz - Posted - 12/04/2010: 13:20:31
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Originally posted by Preston Thompson
Now there's an example of expression not being shown, Mike. I was kidding too. Sort of like. "why is everybody piling on". It just don't come across right.
Thanks Eric.
No problem, only one thing, are you gonna let me bring my Tuba to your party?
Or they just like to talk more. 
