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macmanmatty - Posted - 12/18/2013: 03:27:06
I play my round neck dobro sometimes (Ok, Well almost all the time) with the slide on my index finger and use to make bar chords and hammer on and pull from and to the slide. Anyone else do this?? I have not seen this anywhere and when I posted this on another guitar form I all I got was replies saying that my side work will dirty and fingers and metal will not sound good together!! Here is my sound cloud page mostly originals that I wrote with words but a few covers and the first is a dobro piece I wrote called "Feelin Dirty'" using the slide on my index finger. There is a banjo cover of ashoken farewell after that.
Thanks
Macmanmatty
chuck hall - Posted - 12/18/2013: 06:09:42
Dave Hole, a blues guitarist from Australia plays roundneck overhand slide with the slide on his index finger. He's very good.
soufiej - Posted - 12/19/2013: 08:13:01
I remember this same question appearing on another guitar forum. The question there was whether the op had created a new style unique to himself.
I responded that not many players would wear their slide on their index finger since it wouldn't allow for damping behind the slide. Undamped strings playing an alternate note or chord would result in a "dirty" sound that could be desirable for certain types of playing such as blues. Undamped strings though would also have much more noise generated by the slide action across the wound strings. However, most often achieving a "clean" sound will require the strings to be damped, at the very least, behind the strings. When I was deciding which finger best suited the slide for my own playing I both watched and read the material from several more experienced players who strongly emphasized the difference in tone which could be achieved with and without this damping technique.
I don't recall any mention of fingers and metal not sounding good together. Obviously, playing roundneck slide will require both fingers and slide. I recall saying the op would be in the minority of players who prefer the index finger for the slide. Those who use a short, knuckle slide might use that finger. But, if you're using a more conventional slide, you can manage a different sound than you presently have if you try the slide on another finger and learn a bit of damping technique. It's more a matter of diversity in your playing style than an either/or, right or wrong situation.
macmanmatty - Posted - 12/19/2013: 08:45:39
if it was the acoustic guitar forum that other person was me as well. If you don't want a truly dirty sound you need to know some music theory. Playing any major keys other than C, G, D or possibly A in open G tuning on the dobro will give you a very dirty sound to your slide because some / all of those notes aren't allowed in those other keys and they aren't the notes of the major pentonic scale 1,2,3,5,6. allowed in every major scale of the root third and fith of the major scale your playing in., and to have these notes vibrating especially to bad note combos such as a D to F G to Bb G to Db D to Ab would sound horrible. It's all about tuning what key your playing and what note(s) you are sliding to and from. The to is more important than the from.
Edited by - macmanmatty on 12/19/2013 08:48:39
soufiej - Posted - 12/20/2013: 06:24:43
I'll admit to not understanding your logic behind which notes are acceptable to play without damping behind the string. It seems rather too selective to me.
However, how does your knowledge of theory as you describe it here address the issue of damping out unwanted noise as the slide moves across the wound strings?
macmanmatty - Posted - 12/20/2013: 09:48:56
In open G tuning (DGDGBD) when you side from E to G on the D string in key of G major you have the D note resonating and possibly the G and B note(s) depending on how sloppy your picking is. D is the fifth in G major scale having it resonate in the back ground would sound not bad or possibly even good and may even a sound that you want. But playing in open G with no capo in key of Ab and sliding from C to Db on the B string you have the B string resonating in the back ground and B is the Flattened 3rd of the Ab scale and would sound horriable resonating in the background. When you slide you pass though some notes not allowed in your scale usually very quickly. When going from C to G on the B string You pass through C C# D D# E F F# G and only the C D E F# and G notes would sound good in key of G major no you wouldn't want let those notes resonate for to long as would not sound good unless you dampened them and then what is point of sliding as you would not get as much of that slide sound.
soufiej - Posted - 12/20/2013: 14:55:54
Your method still seems unnecessarily selective to me. But I was actually asking about the mechanical noise of the slide on the wound strings as you slide up or down the neck. The question wasn't note specific.