carteru93 - Posted - 07/30/2008:  13:35:04

I think, having different forum sub-categories in Playing category (BHO has clawhammer and 3 finger), one for squareneck style (lap style) and one or blues or roundneck style.

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Edited by - carteru93 on 07/30/2008 13:36:21

schlange - Posted - 07/30/2008:  15:40:55

Probably a good idea. Anyone else want to chime in on this?

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Bunyan Bob - Posted - 07/30/2008:  20:31:44

I'm cool with it as long as it doesn't become a 'right way/wrong way' affair. After all, there's a zillion ways to play this thing....and they all sound cool. Except for maybe lighting it on fire while it's still plugged in...as much as I love and admire Jimi, sometimes he just went too far....

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BDC1 - Posted - 07/30/2008:  20:58:38

Well I think it's a good idea simply because they are both reso's and they are two completely different animals

carteru93 - Posted - 07/31/2008:  10:38:36

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Originally posted by BDC1

Well I think it's a good idea simply because they are both reso's and they are two completely different animals

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Bird Dog - Posted - 07/31/2008:  12:02:45

I agree, although I would add that roundneck can include other styles than blues. Some old-time bands use them. Technically it's called a Spanish-style guitar, and slide is called Hawaiian, but that could cause confusion. Which brings up the thought: Will Hawaiian-style players be welcome here? You know, Weissenborn guitars: Slide but no resonator. Of course, some people play Hawaiian on resonator guitars...I'm sorry I started now.

Robin

carteru93 - Posted - 07/31/2008:  12:11:17

Well maybe we need 3 or 4 instead of 2 subcategories for different styles. That would keep the Playing forum categories less cluttered with irrelevancies to the topic style.

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gbkyser - Posted - 07/31/2008:  13:21:50

As soon as I found out about the new Hangout, I came over here to suggest this same topic. Roundneck playing doesn't get much attention elsewhere.

As far as it turning into roundneck vs squareneck, I think that separating the styles would actually prevent that from happening... certainly seems to keep things peaceful at BHO...

GUY

Edited by - gbkyser on 07/31/2008 14:16:29

carteru93 - Posted - 07/31/2008:  13:28:36

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Originally posted by gbkyser

As soon as I found out about the new Hangout, I came over here to suggest this same topic. Roundneck playing doesn't get much attention elsewhere.

As far as it turning into roundneck vs squareneck, I think that separating the styles would actually prevent that from happening... certainly seems to keep things peaceful at BHO...

GUY

GUY

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Rzn8tor - Posted - 07/31/2008:  14:57:22

To me, roundneck vs squareneck can be confusing, since a lot of folks use roundneck instruments to play lap style. I also wouldn't equate squareneck with bluegrass, since a lot of the interesting stuff going on is outside that genre (e.g. Don Rooke), not to forget the Hawaiian tradition that started all the lap style stuff.

So I'd say "lap style" would make a good category; the problem is what to title the other stuff. In the tradition of the Steel Guitar Forum, how about "non-lap style."

BTW, for those of you slidin' over from BHO, a couple of great resources are Brad's Page of Steel: well.com/~wellvis/steel.html and the Steel Guitar Forum: bb.steelguitarforum.com/index.php

carteru93 - Posted - 07/31/2008:  15:00:08

Lap and non-lap, I think thats a great idea!

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El Dobro - Posted - 07/31/2008:  16:50:35

What if someone plays a banjo with a slide? Afterall, it has a resonator.

carteru93 - Posted - 07/31/2008:  16:52:48

You mean ojnab!!! Maybe also an "other slide instruments'.

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Bunyan Bob - Posted - 07/31/2008:  19:26:06

Hmm...after careful contemplation, you kind of have to include everybody in every category all the time about everything. I play a squareneck, yet, not always bluegrass. Definitely not when it's plugged into my tube stack!!

Ok, so I think we may be back to squareneck/roundneck. Or how about vertical/horizontal? But then if I'm playing a roundneck while lying on the couch, is that horizontal?

There's definitely more than just two categories here...I guess you could have a topic for each, i.e., Hawaiian, bluegrass, blues, and then 'alternative' for those who are not only outside of the box, but building their own boxes... Kind of a 'freestyle' category.

After all, from its inception, reso has always been on the 'outside' anyways....

"Never mind the dog, I''m the one who''s howling on the porch!"

carteru93 - Posted - 07/31/2008:  19:29:25

Yes, yes, perhaps a musical style category. but then you couldn't ask a question pretaining to just one type of instrument (square or round)

I think it would be much easier, square vs round! That's it, square and round, simplest solution is likely to be the best

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Bird Dog - Posted - 08/01/2008:  11:01:12

Or slide vs. non-slide.

Robin

carteru93 - Posted - 08/01/2008:  12:30:55

Here we go again

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El Dobro - Posted - 08/02/2008:  10:23:47

Now what if someone took a squareneck and rounded it off?

Bird Dog - Posted - 08/02/2008:  11:50:06

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Originally posted by El Dobro

Now what if someone took a squareneck and rounded it off?

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carteru93 - Posted - 08/02/2008:  11:53:05

It's the thrill of DIY, but sometimes with DIY, you end up SOL

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El Dobro - Posted - 08/02/2008:  12:02:50

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Originally posted by Bird Dog

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Originally posted by El Dobro

Now what if someone took a squareneck and rounded it off?

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I once knew a guy who wanted to play fretless electric bass. So he bought a fretted bass and pulled the frets out. I ask you: Why...?

Robin

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carteru93 - Posted - 08/02/2008:  12:05:38

Makes sense! Why buy a new one when you can mod the one you already have (SAFELY) to suit your needs. It's like buying a whole new banjo just because you don't like the tone ring in your current one

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El Dobro - Posted - 08/02/2008:  12:14:29

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Originally posted by carteru93

Makes sense! Why buy a new one when you can mod the one you already have (SAFELY) to suit your needs. It's like buying a whole new banjo just because you don't like the tone ring in your current one

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carteru93 - Posted - 08/02/2008:  12:15:55

Why would they, Earl didn't

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El Dobro - Posted - 08/02/2008:  12:17:22

Well, he's about the only one AND me.

carteru93 - Posted - 08/02/2008:  12:20:44

We better watch all the banjo talk on here!

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carteru93 - Posted - 08/02/2008:  16:35:29

How about

Pedal
Squareneck
Roundneck

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MitchC - Posted - 08/02/2008:  16:52:27

Carter said:

We better watch all the banjo talk on here!

I say... is it "legal" to actually spell out "banjo" here ? Say it aint so ! LOL

carteru93 - Posted - 08/02/2008:  17:13:49

I play it so it's alright for me to say it

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Bird Dog - Posted - 08/04/2008:  08:21:16

If you can play it you can say it.
If you can sing it you can wing it.
If you can pick it - never mind...

Robin

carteru93 - Posted - 08/04/2008:  08:27:40

from now on, banjo will be referred to as O=="=::

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Bunyan Bob - Posted - 08/04/2008:  22:50:15

Here we go with the banjo talk...

Are there any designated reso guys on here yet?

Oh, about the fretless bass thing, I've known a few guys that have done that. Oddly enough, it's very cost effective. For some reason, it's more expensive to buy a neck with no slots or markings than it is to buy a regular 'off the rack' unit. If you're careful, you can convert a fairly cheap j-bass into a decent fretless in less than an afternoon (done it!). The only real trick is to make sure you fill in the slots with a suitable hardwood after. We did one that had a rosewood neck and filled in the slots with a slightly paler rosewood. The player was just starting fretless so he had the advantage of 'fret markers' along with fretless feel.

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DNickell - Posted - 08/05/2008:  07:31:47

For what it is worth, bigroadblues.com deals almost exclusively with roundneck style slide guitar, and mostly for blues of course.

Focus on squareneck/lap style seems to orient the site towards styles of music more akin to banjo and fiddle. Whether or not that is a good thing is debatable.

Larry_Waisner - Posted - 08/05/2008:  11:54:45

I like Carter's suggestion,
Squareneck
Roundneck
Pedal
Especially since I have and play all three. If wasn't for BHO there would be no RHO. I too came here as soon as I read on BHO that this sight had started.
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carteru93 - Posted - 08/05/2008:  12:38:36

so back on topic

Wait, don't forget lap

Squareneck
Roundneck
Pedal
Lap

I think that covers it all

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Square Neck - Posted - 08/05/2008:  19:18:33

I have a fretless banjo!!! I am so screwed!!!!

carteru93 - Posted - 08/05/2008:  19:19:40

Banjos have a roundneck

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prewar37 - Posted - 02/25/2009:  08:15:49

Perhaps just keep it general........
Roundneckers................
Squareneckers...............

Keep on pickin' prewar37

John Gribble - Posted - 05/26/2010:  01:38:13

I'm new here, but I would like to see a separation of squareneck and roundneck instruments. They are different beasts both in terms of playing technique and also music. A third, "non-reso steel" forum for lap steels, pedal steels and all the other beasties would be fun, too.

Patrick Sylvest - Posted - 07/05/2010:  07:14:22

I'd like to see more roundneck/bottleneck players.. don't need a separate section...the threads themselves will differentiate from one another.

I think I'm gonna have to get me another roundneck... I miss playing that style.

Preston Thompson - Posted - 08/25/2010:  04:40:54

One sure way to keep me out of threads is to have the lap steel or round neck topics. I only play the squareneck and have grown tired over the years of roundneck dobro. To me, they sound good picked, but the slide leaves a lot to be desired. The lap steel needs an amp so that's three strikes there.

For me, just a squareneck. But y'all have fun with whatever.

p

Edited by - Preston Thompson on 08/25/2010 08:18:03

Jim T Whitby - Posted - 09/08/2010:  04:33:10

I have a Roundneck.....but started with a non resto converted spanish .......50 years ago......

Jim T Whitby - Posted - 09/08/2010:  04:41:35

Well I converted my roundneck to a slide....... its ok as I only play at home,( Fender FR-50) Play mostly Blues and Old Hank.....