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dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/21/2021: 16:43:00
First post here. I’m looking for an intermediate level dobro. Looking in the 1000$ to 1700-ish range. Could go slightly higher.
Also, what are features that separate novice and intermediate level and above on the guitar?
Thanks
Edited by - dobrojames84 on 03/22/2021 14:26:33
cc7 - Posted - 03/21/2021: 16:58:46
In you price range is what I consider a keeper, Beard Decophonic 27. I have it on good authority they are going from 1600 to 1800.
LukeL - Posted - 03/21/2021: 18:12:13
Without a doubt I'd also recommend the Deco Phonic. The 27 is in your price range, and if you can stretch it, the 57 is a fantastic professional instrument.
docslyd - Posted - 03/21/2021: 18:18:02
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Originally posted by docslyd
There should be some good guitars in your price range. Also consider used guitars which may have sold initially at a higher price, but decreased due to use. The difference between novice, intermediate and above is a continuum....I wouldn’t dwell on it. Just play.
ps....are you really looking for uncles...entiendes?
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/21/2021: 19:03:20
Uncles and entiendes???? Not sure what you mean?
Edited by - dobrojames84 on 03/21/2021 19:11:17
docslyd - Posted - 03/21/2021: 19:31:15
Tios is "uncles" in Spanish.
Entiendes is "understand".....see the title of your thread....I know it's just a typo.
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/21/2021: 20:23:06
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Originally posted by docslyd
Tios is "uncles" in Spanish.
Entiendes is "understand".....see the title of your thread....I know it's just a typo.
Ah... yes. Learned two new words today. Thanks :)
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/21/2021: 20:23:56
Anyone have thoughts on the goldtone master tone pbs-M all solid mahogany?
Edited by - dobrojames84 on 03/21/2021 20:25:30
Three_Eyed_Willy - Posted - 03/21/2021: 22:58:01
I've heard good things about them. However, you might want to look on Reverb.com to see what kind of used instruments are available. I just got an Appalachian squareneck for about half the original price. It is in perfect condition. The only thing I was put off by was the response on the 5th and 6th strings in the area near the 12th fret. So I put in a Scheerhorn cone and that livened it up quite a bit!
cc7 - Posted - 03/22/2021: 04:54:57
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Originally posted by cc7
In your price range is what I consider a keeper, Beard Decophonic 27. I have it on good authority they are going from 1600 to 1800.
Auver - Posted - 03/22/2021: 06:46:12
If I were to do things over, I'd go straight for a proper instrument like the deco 27 seems to be.
badger - Posted - 03/22/2021: 11:24:00
I had one of the early solid mahogany GoldTones. There was nothing memorable about it. Solid and adequate, it didn't stay long in my arsenal.
My recommendation, echoing some of the above comments, is to buy used. You're at the price point where great pro-level instruments crop up occasionally. Definitely worth the wait - let someone else take the depreciation from new, and it'll be an easier and less-painful sale when GAS comes around to bite your butt. Again.
MarkinSonoma - Posted - 03/22/2021: 12:05:40
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Originally posted by dobrojames84
quote:
Originally posted by docslyd
Tios is "uncles" in Spanish.
Entiendes is "understand".....see the title of your thread....I know it's just a typo.
Ah... yes. Learned two new words today. Thanks :)
Aside from learning some Spanish today, if you're not already aware of this I'll give you a tio - wait - I mean tip:
As the author of a topic, you have the ability to go back and modify the title - so you can correct the typo if you like.
Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 03/22/2021 12:14:37
MarkinSonoma - Posted - 03/22/2021: 12:13:15
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Originally posted by badger
I had one of the early solid mahogany GoldTones. There was nothing memorable about it. Solid and adequate, it didn't stay long in my arsenal.
Philip, I remember that era when you were going through your "catch and release" dobro buying period but I don't recall a Gold Tone solid mahogany passing through Forestville. Makes me wonder how many you "netted" overall then released back into the river?
badger - Posted - 03/22/2021: 13:54:58
I just threw the little ones back. Not worth mentioning.
2BUCKS - Posted - 03/22/2021: 16:45:19
quote:
Originally posted by dobrojames84
First post here. I’m looking for an intermediate level dobro. Looking in the 1000$ to 1700-ish range. Could go slightly higher.
Also, what are features that separate novice and intermediate level and above on the guitar?
Thanks
What guitar are you playing now? At what level of playing would you say you were? Many of us start with a guitar at or lower than $1000.00 and then upgrade some of the internal parts and get a pro set-up. Surprised nobody mentioned a used OMI Dobro for the lower end of your price range too. Sometimes you can find some real gems.
docslyd - Posted - 03/22/2021: 19:36:35
.....dang....I liked the typo.
docslyd - Posted - 03/22/2021: 19:40:49
Also, James, consider that “used” guitar asking prices are just that. You can shop over your budget and always make an offer. With all the boutique builders these days, there is a good variety of instruments available.
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/22/2021: 20:00:44
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Originally posted by docslyd
Also, James, consider that “used” guitar asking prices are just that. You can shop over your budget and always make an offer. With all the boutique builders these days, there is a good variety of instruments available.
I had the Phil Ledbetter RK. I sold it a few months ago. I'm in a phase in life to get more memorable instruments. I play guitar and mandolin as well.
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/23/2021: 05:05:24
Good morning, was on reverb.... never actually bought anything from that app... any horror stories?
I found this listing(see pic). Any advice or opinions?
also, any recommendations from the forum's marketplace?
thanks for the feedback and jokes thus far. :)
Edited by - dobrojames84 on 03/23/2021 05:07:59
Dogwood - Posted - 03/23/2021: 07:02:48
I have owned a few resophonic guitars, one 1930 National Style O, one very cheap Dobro labeled thing, very bad by the way, one other low end guitar, the National was wonderful, needed some cash, but I enjoyed having it for a few years. Last year just about this time I purchased a Beard Dec 27, never looked back. I enjoy playing it very much, It's a keeper.
I had heard about Paul Beards guitars and cones, I took a chance, and as I said I have not regretted my choice. My kids and grandchildren will get all my instruments later. Purchase an instrument that is made well, not just shinny and all fancied up. Playing a well made instrument adds so much to your experience and you never loose your investment down the road.
docslyd - Posted - 03/23/2021: 07:34:22
....seems priced slightly higher than mentioned above. Maybe you could get it directly from a dealer at an additional discount, or from Beard....
cc7 - Posted - 03/23/2021: 08:47:04
New includes a great TKL case. If the above 27 is new, shipping included, it is probably worth it.
Used with pickup, probably worth it.
New or used no extras: price too high. The new ones will be going for 1800 soon.
I should add that when I bought my new Deco 27 very recently, it was the ONLY right handed no pickup 27 available. In my searches and communications, I learned about the price increase from 1600 to 1800, which is already reflected on Beard's list if I'm not mistaken.
Edited by - cc7 on 03/23/2021 08:51:46
toddborger - Posted - 03/23/2021: 13:22:32
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Originally posted by MarkinSonoma
A very clean looking Beatd Copper Mountain which apparently has the Fishman Nashville pickup installed for $1300.
Mark,
Am I missing something? Why would you have a squareneck with a cutaway body? Is that just for appearance?
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/23/2021: 14:58:27
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Originally posted by MarkinSonoma
A very clean looking Beatd Copper Mountain which apparently has the Fishman Nashville pickup installed for $1300.
reverb.com/item/39575589-used-...=39575589
Both those listings are awesome. I forgot GC. I overall thought the price of my find was a bit high.
Iceman6937 - Posted - 03/23/2021: 15:21:27
Sold out.
cc7 - Posted - 03/23/2021: 15:25:22
re the cutaway on the Copper Mountain...I read it was to keep price down and use the one body for square and round necks
MarkinSonoma - Posted - 03/23/2021: 17:00:21
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Originally posted by cc7
re the cutaway on the Copper Mountain...I read it was to keep price down and use the one body for square and round necks
Christopher - I may have been the person who wrote that. 
It's something I have thought about once in awhile and I keep thinking "next time I place an order for some items with Resophonic Outfitters (about once a year) I should find out what the scoop is with this."
Pure speculation on my part - but think of how small a company Beard is. Paul has a handful of employees. The concept of a composite or plastic-like "bowl" has been around for decades with Ovation Guitars - a much larger company.
I would imagine the design, engineering, and production of the mold(s) is a pretty expensive proposition. Perhaps in his market research Paul was thinking that for the roundneck version people would prefer the cutaway for better access to the higher frets, and if he offered a squareneck it's not the end of the world if it's also a cutaway. I even read awhile back on a Facebook Dobro page a Copper Mountain owner felt that he has better access to the higher frets with the cutaway even though it's lap style.
I remember talking to Todd Clinesmith when he was first getting his beautiful cast aluminum lap steels off the ground. He said the design, engineering, machining, etc. - it ended up being way more work than he originally thought it would be.
Questioning the cutaway on the squareneck Copper Mountain seems to be the first thing out of anyone's mouth or typed on their keyboard when they see the model for the first time.
A couple years ago @ Gryphon in the Bay Area they had both styles in stock. I would have been happy to take them both home if I had a pile of money burning a hole in my pocket. I was impressed with the sound and I liked the way they played. And fairly light as well.
I like the full bells-and-whistles squareneck version that includes the Fishman Nashville pickup, a Jason Lollar Teisco replica foil surface mounted pickup and surface controls, and the Hipshot DoubleShot. That's a real Swiss Army knife resonator guitar which can double as a lap steel, which would be great for playing out. You can also blend the pickups as Jerry Douglas does sometimes with his Black Beard.
Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 03/23/2021 17:04:14
docslyd - Posted - 03/25/2021: 21:22:38
James...if you haven’t opened your wallet yet, there is an older Bobby
Wolfe walnut reso on ebay, asking $1900.00. That would be a nice, solid keeper and considered a boutique guitar, not mass manufactured. Good looking and well built, even if it ended up needing a new cone or setup. I am willing to bet he would take less if you were to offer.
dobrojames84 - Posted - 03/31/2021: 11:20:18
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Originally posted by docslyd
James...if you haven’t opened your wallet yet, there is an older Bobby
Wolfe walnut reso on ebay, asking $1900.00. That would be a nice, solid keeper and considered a boutique guitar, not mass manufactured. Good looking and well built, even if it ended up needing a new cone or setup. I am willing to bet he would take less if you were to offer.
Good suggestion. I'm still looking. Amd saving basically
mesmithut - Posted - 03/31/2021: 11:28:59
And Matt Leadbetter has a Bobby Wolfe on the classifieds here for $1800.
docslyd - Posted - 03/31/2021: 14:40:07
Both good choices....
