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spyder27122 - Posted - 06/06/2021: 05:56:18
I am looking for a microphone with a pattern larger than cardiod To use with my resonator. Since I am a fairly active player I need a larger pattern. Any advice? Also does anyone know what an affordable acoustic electric resonator would be?
LukeL - Posted - 06/06/2021: 06:26:05
I use a DPA Core 4099 on my Dobro and it sounds fantastic. No EQ and it sounds exactly like my guitar. I prefer the sound of a microphone to a pickup.
MarkinSonoma - Posted - 06/06/2021: 09:46:28
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Originally posted by spyder27122
I am looking for a microphone with a pattern larger than cardiod To use with my resonator. Since I am a fairly active player I need a larger pattern. Any advice? Also does anyone know what an affordable acoustic electric resonator would be?
I'm confused by your post - you're asking about a microphone in the first sentence, then later you're asking about an affordable acoustic electric resonator - are you referring to an actual guitar here?
The most affordable acoustic/electric resonator out there is the Gretsch Bobtail because it comes equipped with the Fishman Nashville pickup, still the best pickup in the industry for a dobro. Not that great a guitar played unplugged, but when plugged in with the combination of the Fishman Jerry Douglas Aura pedal it does a pretty good job.
Luke's suggestion of the DPA is a good one, but these go for $620 - more than the Gretsch guitar with the Nashville pickup included.
LukeL - Posted - 06/08/2021: 04:46:19
That is true about the price, but I can confirm that my Beard with the DPA mic sounds better than a Gretsch. It also sounds better than the Deco 57 I used to have with the Nashville pickup.
Neither of those are bad options though.
wlgiii - Posted - 06/08/2021: 07:08:50
I went the other way, thanks to a professional recommendation- a small Audio Technia lapel mic- (AT831b, I think- it's at home). I took my dobro to our local sound system store, they made that suggestion, and even recorded my playing through it to check the sound. It's done a great job on stage, and for recording. You can clip it onto the instrument with a small goose neck, or onto the mic stand (I've tried both and prefer the latter).
Edited by - wlgiii on 06/08/2021 07:09:11
MarkinSonoma - Posted - 06/08/2021: 13:47:03
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Originally posted by LukeL
That is true about the price, but I can confirm that my Beard with the DPA mic sounds better than a Gretsch. It also sounds better than the Deco 57 I used to have with the Nashville pickup.
Neither of those are bad options though.
The OP (Mike) hasn't come back to the thread yet to give us any additional details, but in what has become almost standard procedure in online discussions regarding dobro amplification, the cart gets put before the horse.
Whether it's playing into a mic on the stand, using an onboard microphone device, or a pickup of which the overwhelming favorite is the Fishman Nashville - it all depends on your scenario.
If you play strictly acoustic as in bluegrass or in an acoustic duo or trio, then the various microphone options are always solid choices.
If you are in a mixed acoustic electric band where it can get loud and it includes an aggressive drummer (I refer to these types as "pounders") then in many situations playing a dobro into a mic on a stand, or onboard the guitar can be a losing battle.
Luke, when you played the Gretsch with Fishman Nashville and the Decophonic with the pickup - did you have anything in the signal chain to shape the sound like the Jerry Douglas Aura pedal or Audio Sprockets ToneDexter? Without the help of those devices, just about any reso with the Nashville pickup will have the dreaded piezo "quack" - not unlike so many flattop guitars with under the saddle piezo pickups.
The other night on the Opry Rob was playing his brand new Byrl into a mic. Maybe that guitar doesn't have a Nashville pickup installed? But next to him was Trey Hensley, playing a dreadnought and plugged in as usual.
Prior to the pandemic I saw Rob & Trey play live here in California on four occasions since the formed the duo several years ago. The largest venue was the huge Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival in Golden Gate Park. Thousands in the crowd that day. The second largest venue was at The Palace of Fine Arts in SF where they opened for Tommy Emmanuel. An indoor theater with a capacity of just under a thousand. Another time at a community center theater here in Sonoma County, 75-100 people in the audience. And the fourth time in a saloon in the old hippie haven of Bolinas in Marin County, maybe 50 people. Rob plugged in with hs Nashville equipped Scheerhorn an minimal pedal board at each venue. Despite the vast differences in venues, his guitar always sounded great.
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