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firelakekid - Posted - 07/21/2024: 06:45:18
I have been using the Scheerhorn signature strings for years with my Beard R body. I ran out of those and last week put on set of the new GHS Cryo. I have to say I notice a difference and so does a friend of mine who also has an R body and always used the Scheerhorn and just started with the new Cryos. It's hard to describe, but to me the sound seems thinner and not that deep smooth bass. I will say though that the first and second strings are good sounding to me--their tone is smoother and not so bright sounding. It may be that I have to break in these strings more. But in truth I am wondering if anyone else has noticed a difference. And also what other brand of strings I should try. I know D'addario has strings for dobro. I have not tried them in years. I remember they sounded okay, but I liked the Scheerhorn sig better.
Dobrojan - Posted - 07/21/2024: 09:19:18
I suggest you try Straight Up Strings. I have started using those on all my instruments and am very pleased with those plus they last much longer than any other strings I have tried.
straightupstrings.com.
apbal - Posted - 07/21/2024: 11:40:40
I also noticed a difference. Don't like the Americana strings as well as the Scheerhorn set. They're close, but not the same. You might try the 1650 GHS strings. A little brighter than the cryo strings, but they are what I mostly use these days. They last longer than some other brands, too.
JC Dobro - Posted - 07/22/2024: 06:05:23
Which new GHS Cryo strings are you referring to? The CR1600 cryo set, or a new/different set?
The GHS CR1600 is actually identical to the Scheerhorn signature strings (TS 1600). The latter just sports Tim's name/endorsement, and costs a few bucks more. You'll notice the individual strings in both sets are labeled "LJ", which is a Laurence Juber string.
I haven't seen a new GHS Cryo reso set...please do advise on the model #, i always like experimenting.
Edited by - JC Dobro on 07/22/2024 06:07:19
firelakekid - Posted - 07/22/2024: 06:52:04
The strings I put on are the GHS Americana series CR 1600. I purchased them from Elderly's Instruments and put them on about a week ago. And like as Aron posted previously, and also a friend of mine who is a long time experienced dobro/reso player, there seems to be a difference in sound from the Scheerhorn Signature.
MarkinSonoma - Posted - 07/22/2024: 10:58:26
A couple guys I know who are good friends of Tim Scheerhorn have also written online that the two sets are identical.
I guess I would have to hear an A/B comparison between the two sets to be able to notice a difference.
Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 07/22/2024 10:59:12
apbal - Posted - 07/22/2024: 12:59:52
The two sets are supposedly the same (I believe Tim himself told me something similar), but when I A/B'd them, there was a difference. Can't really prove it anymore because I can't buy the Scheerhorn sets any longer.
Koebel - Posted - 07/23/2024: 12:33:39
I have both sets at the shop and the individual strings have the same packaging once opened. I haven't put them on to A/B the sound, but maybe I should make a recording of both to see if there is indeed a difference in tone? That could be an interesting experiment.
Koebel - Posted - 07/23/2024: 12:37:59
I tried to attach the pictures of the sets before and after opening, but it seems that they may not be showing up?
JC Dobro - Posted - 07/23/2024: 13:12:13
They are the same string set - comprised of cryogenically treated LJ17-56 strings from GHS. (This is their Laurence Juber signature string…”kitted” into different sets and given different brand names).
You might potentially hear differences in an A/B, the same way you might possibly hear differences in identical EJ42 string sets manufactured at different times and possibly subjected to different manufacturing conditions (ie, quality control). I’m guessing many of us have put on a dud set of our favorite “go to” string set at some point.
I can’t remember who, but someone in this forum tipped us on this issue, and from that point I switched to CR1600 to save a few bucks from the Scheerhorn set, given that they are the same strings. The forum member had also confirmed this with a GHS rep.
If I’m mistaken, somebody can correct me.
PS thanks for the photos, but the resolution is a bit fuzzy on my PC so can't confirm what the individual string packets say.
Edited by - JC Dobro on 07/23/2024 13:17:16
Koebel - Posted - 07/23/2024: 15:30:04
Ha, It's not just your PC, it seems that I need to clean my cell camera lens off!
Yes Jamie, you are correct. My rep told me the same thing but I thought that as long as I had both sets here, I would open them up and see for myself.
You bring up a good point about the A/B sound test as I've run into bad strings in the past (not from GHS) but when intonating an electric guitar I put on a new set of strings and just could not get the intonation right on the 3rd string. I swapped it for another new string from a different set (same company) and intonating was a breeze. After contacting them, they said that can happen and they would be happy to send a replacement set.