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Nov 7, 2018 - 9:55:41 AM
15 posts since 5/11/2010

Hey there everyone! I've been playing a cheapo depot for years now i have a Johnson something or another.... It doesn't sound bad with the proper setup. But alas its time for me to upgrade. I've been on and off the horn with Beard about a Model 27 and they also suggested maybe going the Gold Tone Deluxe PBS route as well. Beard is really what i want but im not wild about spending that much if i dont have too. Id like to be 1000 buck or under "used" is fine by me too. But i've been eyeballing the Epiphone Hound dog as well... Who has played all of these? Can i have your thoughts? Anyone got something for sale? Guess im just looking at what you think over the Epi and the gold tone maybe even the 27 by comparison. thanks in advance!!

Nov 7, 2018 - 10:07:32 AM

1647 posts since 8/3/2008

The Epi is a low end guitar. Both the Goldtone and especially any of the Deco's are hands above in terms of design, construction, fit, finish and playability.

hp

Nov 7, 2018 - 10:48:18 AM

86 posts since 8/12/2010

What Howard said, as usual!

Your Johnson and the Epi are pretty close cousins.

Nov 7, 2018 - 11:37:08 AM

15 posts since 5/11/2010

Have either one of you played both the Gold tone DLX PBS and the 27? If so whats your thoughts? Do you find one is better than another?

Nov 7, 2018 - 11:53:01 AM

1647 posts since 8/3/2008

Better for who? ;-)

Yep. I have time with both. Let's put it this way:

PBS-D - Fine factory built (mass produced) guitar. Best if set up directly at the Beard shop. PBS-D uses the "standard" Beard BC-1 cone fwiw. Case extra.

M-27 - Fine hand crafted guitar designed to emulate a classic design but built with modern methods and materials. Built with Beard "Legend Cone" installed. Ships with case.

What else you want to know?

Full disclosure. I was the Beard business guy for a bunch of years. Tech support after that. I come out of retirement from time to time, as needed. Like Nashville for the next 4 days ;-)

Edited by - hlpdobro on 11/07/2018 11:53:39

Nov 7, 2018 - 12:08:38 PM

755 posts since 9/23/2014

Their is a Goldtone PBS Deluxe in the Classifieds for $750 with a case

and a Beard  27 for $1350 with a case

Edited by - Doctor Proctor on 11/07/2018 12:12:11

Nov 7, 2018 - 12:08:58 PM

17 posts since 1/24/2018

I have a Goldtone PBS-deluxe w/ pickup and hard case that I will be looking to sell in the next month or so (waiting on a new dobro to come in). It plays very good in my opinion and has definitely been a good friend of mine.

Bought new in May of '16, still in very good shape with some minor blemishes. Has been played almost every day since then.

This was set up by Gold-Tone, not Beard shop. If interested I can send pics or a video (although it may be hard to get a accurate representation of sound through a video file). As I said, waiting on a new dobro to come in and I'm not sure when that would be. I gig a lot so can't sell it without getting the new dobro first.

You can direct message me if your interested.

-Evan

Nov 7, 2018 - 12:44:30 PM

1084 posts since 7/28/2008

If you are looking to upgrade, forget the Epiphone. The Gold Tone is a good beginners instrument, but as you progress, you will probably want something more. Upgrading to the 27 will get you a quality crafted instrument, top quality components, a great set up. and top notch playability. Any chance you can play any of these?

Nov 7, 2018 - 1:06:56 PM

15 posts since 5/11/2010

quote:
Originally posted by DaveInAL

If you are looking to upgrade, forget the Epiphone. The Gold Tone is a good beginners instrument, but as you progress, you will probably want something more. Upgrading to the 27 will get you a quality crafted instrument, top quality components, a great set up. and top notch playability. Any chance you can play any of these?


Thats my biggest problem i've only played 2 beards in my lifetime.  Both i loved.  I may be traveling down to their shop in the next month or so to try a couple as i am only about 2 and half hours from there.  I'm hoping to have that "I need it moment..." lol..  However they dont always have 27's in stock as they are a build to order instrument... Raises a problem for me.. =/

Edited by - banjobubby on 11/07/2018 13:08:50

Nov 7, 2018 - 1:30:53 PM

1084 posts since 7/28/2008

quote:
Originally posted by banjobubby
quote:
Originally posted by DaveInAL

If you are looking to upgrade, forget the Epiphone. The Gold Tone is a good beginners instrument, but as you progress, you will probably want something more. Upgrading to the 27 will get you a quality crafted instrument, top quality components, a great set up. and top notch playability. Any chance you can play any of these?


Thats my biggest problem i've only played 2 beards in my lifetime.  Both i loved.  I may be traveling down to their shop in the next month or so to try a couple as i am only about 2 and half hours from there.  I'm hoping to have that "I need it moment..." lol..  However they dont always have 27's in stock as they are a build to order instrument... Raises a problem for me.. =/


If you are that close, you need to make the trip!  Paul is a wealth of knowledge and experience and is willing to share it with us.  Which Beard models did you play?  I play a spruce/ walnut Odyssey and just love the sound.  I purchased it after a trip to the Beard shop and playing most everything in the shop.  The guitar in my avatar is a maple Clinesmith.

Nov 7, 2018 - 1:49:51 PM

944 posts since 1/14/2011

quote:
Originally posted by banjobubby
they dont always have 27's in stock as they are a build to order instrument... Raises a problem for me.. =/

If you call Paul, I'm sure that he can give you a very good window of when a 27 or two will be ready. You might be able to try them out before he ships them off...

Nov 8, 2018 - 7:11:29 AM

hansscherm

Germany

6 posts since 10/17/2018

What 27 are you talking about? The Deco Phonic 27?

Nov 9, 2018 - 3:44:42 AM

755 posts since 9/23/2014

quote:
Originally posted by hansscherm

What 27 are you talking about? The Deco Phonic 27?


I thought we were all talking about the same 27 that you mentioned in the beginning

Nov 9, 2018 - 5:24:48 AM
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2495 posts since 7/27/2008

There is also the Beard Tut Taylor   Model 27, some here might not be aware of that guitar.

A reproduction of Tut’s favorite pre war Dobro, down to the parallelogram shaped holes in the soundwell. 

When the Jerry Douglas forum was around Tut posted under the name “Parallelogram.”

Nov 11, 2018 - 9:33:20 AM
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161 posts since 8/29/2008

FWIW, someone mentioned the Gold Tone as being a "beginners" guitar, and I do not agree that that is the case. Is it the same as a real Beard? Of course not. But it is a fine guitar. It is arguably better than the majority of guitars ever churned out by the original Dobro company and their subcontractors back in the 30s, as well as many OMI instruments. Meaning for decades even professionals couldn't get a guitar as good as what you can get in a Gold Tone today. I remember a short video of Mike Auldrigde and Jimmy Heffernan playing these guitars and basically saying as much. If I was shopping and had the money I'd probably go for the Deco-Phonic Model 27, but the Gold Tone PBS-D is no slouch.

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