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May 24, 2019 - 10:31:54 AM
3 posts since 5/24/2019

I tried the lace sensor dobro pickup but it is a bit too narrow. Is anyone here having success with a pickup for 8 string. I have the Goldtone . Thanks for help.

May 24, 2019 - 10:53:53 AM

wlgiii

USA

1062 posts since 9/28/2010

I've had success playing my 8x Goldtone through a microphone, but it's generally at small venues with decent sound systems. The current mic of choice is one of those small lapel mics; its clip fits right onto the coverplate, but one can also use a small gooseneck.

May 24, 2019 - 11:59:47 AM

2850 posts since 7/27/2008

Not sure what "narrow" means in reference to the Lace dobro pickup unless it has something to do with inadequate coverage under all the strings. When I have heard these live on a couple dobros in the past to me they make the instrument sound more like a lap steel so to my ears it kind of defeats the purpose.

Maybe Howard Parker will chime in - he had Paul Beard cobble together an 8 string Fishman Nashville pickup which required two of the originals. This as I recall was quite expensive, and apparently it was a one shot deal for Paul, and not something he wants to do again.

Though still not showing on his website, back in December on Facebook Oklahoma reso luthier Kent Schoonover announced that he has developed a version of the Fishman Nashville-style  pickup that will work with 7 and 8 string guitars, and it appears to mount on a modified version one of his Schoonover modular spiders. I would guess right off based on the 6 string pickup  upgrade that Kent provides, it will likely set you back ballpark $500 - but that's just a guess. And if I'm anywhere close, I couldn't see myself pouring that kind of dough into a Gold Tone/Beard 8 string. Were I in need of such a thing I could justify the cost in a Beard Mike Auldridge signature or a Clinesmith 8 string. 

What always needs to be clarified with a question of this nature is what are your playing situations? Solo? With a small acoustic group?  If either of the two are the case then some sort of small onboard microphone might be the ticket as commented above by Wayne. Some folks are pretty happy with the Myers pickups, which are really small microphone units, not a surface mounted pickup like a Lace. 

It gets difficult if a third scenario is introduced: a mixed acoustic/electric band including drums, etc. Now we're talking feedback issues, sound "bleeding" and so on. 

No solution is out there in a mixed acoustic/electric scenario that isn't going to put a pretty serious dent in the wallet. 

Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 05/24/2019 12:02:17

May 24, 2019 - 12:43:32 PM
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otbreso

USA

1570 posts since 4/27/2009

Before I went to the Fishman Nashville I used a K & K Silver bullet mic. A friend made me a rubber wedge that squeezed into one of the open spots on a fan cover plate and had a hole it it for the mic. Worked pretty well and I think I'm gonna do this for my 8 string but I'll drill a hole in the cover plate and find a grommet that will work with that hole and allow the K & K to slide in.

May 24, 2019 - 1:24:21 PM

2850 posts since 7/27/2008

Again, this begs the question Terry. When you play out somewhere and need to amplify, does the K & K Silver Bullet work with a fairly loud mixed acoustic/electric band, floor wedge monitors, etc? 

May 24, 2019 - 2:05:50 PM

2850 posts since 7/27/2008

Oh, and by the way - welcome to the hangout Joel.

 I recognized your name since you listed that you're from Maui.

Joel is a fine  steel guitar player, multi-instrumentalist and as I recall, a music educator in Hawaii.

May 26, 2019 - 8:38:51 AM

42 posts since 6/10/2011

If you solve this please post what you figured out. Thanks!!!

May 27, 2019 - 4:21:26 PM

3 posts since 5/24/2019

Thanks for your responses. By narrow I mean it barely covers strings 1 and 8. I switch off between my dobro and lap steel in a loud bar gig with bass and drums. I tried the fishman that bolts on the cone but it was too harsh. I bought the lace sensor and wired it in parallel with the fishman so it still sounds somewhat like a dobro. I guess it's just a blend of harsh dobro and lap steel which is why I'm seeking advice.
Here's a sample of me playing with a mic in studio. I'm not bad and I make a living at this so I'd invest in a better instrument if you think it's needed. Here's my Gold Tone in A6 with a mic. Thanks, Joel

soundcloud.com/joelkatzmaui/do...ian-blues


Edited by - Seasiderecording on 05/27/2019 16:25:52

May 27, 2019 - 4:23:40 PM

3 posts since 5/24/2019

quote:
Originally posted by MarkinSonoma

Oh, and by the way - welcome to the hangout Joel.

 I recognized your name since you listed that you're from Maui.

Joel is a fine  steel guitar player, multi-instrumentalist and as I recall, a music educator in Hawaii.


Thanks for the compliment. Yes, I still teach at Maui College.

May 27, 2019 - 8:05:55 PM
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otbreso

USA

1570 posts since 4/27/2009

quote:
Originally posted by MarkinSonoma

Again, this begs the question Terry. When you play out somewhere and need to amplify, does the K & K Silver Bullet work with a fairly loud mixed acoustic/electric band, floor wedge monitors, etc? 


Sorry Mark, I've been out on the desert where there is no cell or internet since I posted that and just got home.

I played with that K & K in some purdy durn loud places. Our local brewery is ridiculously loud. We don't use floor wedges in there as there is just no room but I've used it at some pretty high SPLs with floor monitors and never had any problems. This week I'm gonna take that 8 string apart and get it setup with the K and K.

Jun 16, 2019 - 6:27:57 AM

doug662

USA

1435 posts since 11/9/2010

Hey Joel that is some fine picking thanks for the link

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