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Oct 17, 2021 - 6:35:19 AM
141 posts since 11/9/2018

I have a Model 27, essentially new. Some smudges on the coverplate and tail are difficult to wipe out with a microfiber cloth after I play. Looking in a certain light, it appears there may be some light oxidation of the plate.

Anyone else have this going on or can recommend a cleaner?

Oct 17, 2021 - 9:34:22 AM

psikes

USA

104 posts since 4/14/2010

I am a big fan of Flitz for metal things. I have recently started using the Beard Resolution instrument polish and am very happy with it as well.

Phil

Oct 17, 2021 - 9:52:54 AM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

Thanks Phil,
Found some Flitz under the kitchen sink I will try. I talked to Beard and they said the plate is not chrome plated but nickel to maintain a vintage vibe. Not sure I swallow that one.

Oct 17, 2021 - 11:31:41 AM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

Flitz cleaned it up pretty well and seems to leave a coating.

Oct 17, 2021 - 12:12:58 PM

psikes

USA

104 posts since 4/14/2010

Flitz does leave a protective light coating behind. A gentle wipe with a soft cloth and it will buff back to like when you first applied it. I have even watched some videos of a highly talented luthier who uses it to buff wood finishes. Not ready to go there myself. One of the great things about is it’s non-abrasive quality.

Oct 17, 2021 - 12:21:47 PM
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2194 posts since 8/3/2008

Deco hardware is nickel plate and as such will take on a yellowish patina over time.

It's also not a hard as chrome plated hardware.

Here are the specs

fwiw

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Edited by - hlpdobro on 10/17/2021 12:26:55

Oct 17, 2021 - 1:14:28 PM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

I appreciate the patina or wear marks that come with use. What worries me are the small specks of oxidation that are forming on the cover. I would really like to stop or at least slow this process down.

Oct 17, 2021 - 2:15:13 PM

2194 posts since 8/3/2008

To each their own.

Have fun.

h

Oct 17, 2021 - 2:24:28 PM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

You too...rust never sleeps.

Oct 17, 2021 - 3:42:19 PM

docslyd

USA

367 posts since 11/27/2014

Flitz works well on metal as well as plastic and painted surfaces (such as guitars with lacquer finishes). If you want to protect the nickel, you may want to apply a coat of paste wax periodically. Nickel will tarnish quicker than chrome as it is more penetrable.

Oct 17, 2021 - 6:36:05 PM

LukeL

USA

236 posts since 5/11/2018

The coverplate, tailpiece, and screens tarnished so badly on the Deco 57 I used to have that I ended up purchasing a new Beard coverplate, screenless sound rings, and a Hipshot tailpiece for it- all chrome plated. Like one yours, the nickel plating was a pain to keep looking nice and the chrome was more appealing to me. The Decophonic line (or at least mine!) used an import coverplate that is slightly taller at the palmrest than the new Beard coverplates, so I had to shim mine just the tiniest amount (about two pieces of paper thickness) at the recommendation of Beard. I was happy with the outcome. It may not look as "vintage" but that's not what I was going for.


 

Edited by - LukeL on 10/17/2021 18:38:34

Oct 18, 2021 - 5:49:55 AM
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141 posts since 11/9/2018

Thanks for all the good input. I have an OMI I have been relicing for 45 years so I am not after that look either.

I guess I will try maintenance at this point. Maybe the wax will help me play a little faster!

Oct 18, 2021 - 6:25:46 AM

3727 posts since 7/27/2008

"Patina vibe" aside, it seems a little strange to me that they would us an import coverplate. 

The Deco-Phonic is  fairly good value for an American made instrument, but they are still relatively expensive. 

Oct 18, 2021 - 6:30:21 AM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

My thoughts exactly Mark. I learned about the import aspect right here.

I also assume the screen rings and tail pieces are import.

Oct 18, 2021 - 7:17:24 AM

P2gee

USA

37 posts since 3/29/2020

For polishing just about any metal, i have had the best luck with Semichrome Polish.

Oct 18, 2021 - 7:34:06 AM
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3727 posts since 7/27/2008

If one is asking where to find it at the hardware store, it's  "Simichrome."

Oct 18, 2021 - 7:44:09 AM

3727 posts since 7/27/2008

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Originally posted by Iceman6937

My thoughts exactly Mark. I learned about the import aspect right here.

I also assume the screen rings and tail pieces are import.


What's interesting is out of curiosity I was reading specs on the Gold Tone site, and the coverplate I assume is imported, but it's chrome plated. And the tailpiece is genuine Beard chrome plated. 

I was reading something here awhile back where one of our members wrote that he knows  a luthier who actually prefers imported tailpieces. I don't recall why, or if a reason was even given.

Who knew?

Oct 18, 2021 - 8:12:45 AM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

Mark,
I also have a GT PBS-M and the hardware is far superior to the Deco-phonic. Beard tech rep confirmed to me they are imported in order to keep the cost down.

I sent pics of the pits starting to form (after 6 months) and he will share with Paul Beard. He agreed the nickel hardware should be vintage vibe but not reliced.

I will post my findings.

Oct 18, 2021 - 10:10:08 AM

psikes

USA

104 posts since 4/14/2010

I used Simichrome on my motorcycles for years. Then I discovered Flitz. Both work great I just for some reason prefer the Flitz a bit better. On the other hand, for cleaning and reducing the static that attracts dust and lint I really do like the Beard Resolution. About once a year or so I do a good cleaning and wax (carnuba) on almost all of my instruments. If the carnauba isn't a good idea I would certainly appreciate hearing about it from those closer to the industry than I am. Sometimes being on an island in the Pacific Northwest is the best thing ever but we are a bit remote from much information. That's why I value the members here with the great knowledge base.

Phil

Oct 18, 2021 - 2:04:25 PM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

Far from being an expert, but I hear Lizard Spit is good for all metals and woods/finishes. I guess wax can contain some solvents not favorable to certain conditions.

Oct 18, 2021 - 2:45:41 PM

docslyd

USA

367 posts since 11/27/2014

I wouldn't classify a guitar finish as any more particular than a collector/vintage vehicle. You have chrome, brass, nickel and/or lacquer or some other paint. I believe a high quality wax (such as carnauba) to be appropriate for both, as a protectant. Especially if you have corrosive or acid skin. I have compared Simichrome to Flitz and found that the Simichrome left very fine scratches on brand new chrome where Flitz did not. If you think that chrome is super hard and resistant to scratching, I have seen very fine scratches...spider webbing occur with just the touch of a finger.

Oct 18, 2021 - 3:22:42 PM

214 posts since 1/3/2011

 

If you are looking for a decent protective wax for all parts of a reso, I've been using Luthier's Mercantile's "O'Briens Lutherie Wax" for a very long time. You can find it here ...

Use a decent polishing cloth and some elbow grease for great results...

Edited by - Phaedrus on 10/18/2021 15:30:21

Oct 18, 2021 - 3:34:17 PM

3727 posts since 7/27/2008

Not familiar with the stuff. Luthiers Mercantile is a five minute drive from my house, I should head over there and pick up some O'Brien. 

Except I still have plenty of Virtuoso Polish & Cleaner, Beard Resolution Polish and other items. 

Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 10/18/2021 15:35:43

Oct 18, 2021 - 3:44:41 PM

LukeL

USA

236 posts since 5/11/2018

I also didn't like the fact that it was import- but I can see why they'd maybe want it to look vintage.

Oct 18, 2021 - 4:39:03 PM

214 posts since 1/3/2011

quote:
Originally posted by LukeL

I also didn't like the fact that it was import- but I can see why they'd maybe want it to look vintage.


Do you mean the wax?  It's made in Colorado. 

Oct 18, 2021 - 4:52:20 PM

LukeL

USA

236 posts since 5/11/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Phaedrus
quote:
Originally posted by LukeL

I also didn't like the fact that it was import- but I can see why they'd maybe want it to look vintage.


Do you mean the wax?  It's made in Colorado. 


No- the hardware on the Deco Phonic 57 I had.

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