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Oct 19, 2021 - 1:25:29 PM

Bob78

Canada

53 posts since 8/18/2019

I have a beard deco phonic 37 and I'm having a tuner problem.
My arthritic fingers are having a hard time turning the bottom set of tuners.
I have found a set from stewmac that has similar measurements as what I have but I'm not sure if they will be any better.
They are called the "golden age restoration standard post".
If any beard owners have had a similar problem how did you work around it?
I have tried lubricating them but I believe they are just too tight when made.
I have been in contact with Beard but they have no answer.
I would appreciate any suggestions, regards, bob

Oct 19, 2021 - 1:54:20 PM

15 posts since 3/31/2020

Hi Bob,
Before you buy new tuners, I would recommend you try tuning with a string crank. It'll give you some extra leverage and a larger surface to grab so you don't have to grip as tightly. I hope that helps!

Oct 19, 2021 - 2:21:36 PM

badger

USA

577 posts since 8/10/2008

Remove the string from the problem tuner(s) and see if they turn freely. If not, start searching for the cause of the binding.

Oct 19, 2021 - 3:31:08 PM

LukeL

USA

236 posts since 5/11/2018

Many replace the tuners on the Deco Phonic models... they can be problematic. I bought some Grover "butterbean" tuners for mine and they were way smoother and easier to tune.

Oct 19, 2021 - 3:32:16 PM

141 posts since 11/9/2018

Bob, I believe Beard uses those same Golden Age tuners on your Deco-phonic. I have them on a couple of my guitars (Martin and Beard) and after a drop of lubricant (something like Tri-Flow) , they are smoother and easier to use.

Oct 19, 2021 - 5:24:24 PM

Bob78

Canada

53 posts since 8/18/2019

all very good answers, thank you.
Luke L- did the butterball tuners fit the original holes in the beard?
I wouldn't want to do harm to this fantastic guitar. I would trade it in before I would do that.
Once again, thank you, bob

Oct 19, 2021 - 6:47:22 PM

LukeL

USA

236 posts since 5/11/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Bob78

all very good answers, thank you.
Luke L- did the butterball tuners fit the original holes in the beard?
I wouldn't want to do harm to this fantastic guitar. I would trade it in before I would do that.
Once again, thank you, bob


If I remember correctly (It's been a long time) the same holes and screw holes were used and they fit fine. The Hipshot locking tuners I later installed did not line up with the same holes so I eventually made new ones anyway...

Oct 20, 2021 - 4:43:11 AM
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sovio

USA

78 posts since 1/11/2014

I had the same issue  with the Gotoh tuners on my JD Blackbeard.  Someone on this forum suggested Hipshot tuners as the smoothest he'd ever used. I'm so glad I switched then out. They are the smoothest, plus the string lock makes changing strings a snap.  In addition Hipshot has a unique mounting system that requires no additional holes to be drilled, if that's an issue to you.

Oct 20, 2021 - 7:39:39 AM

badger

USA

577 posts since 8/10/2008

Try a little bit of powdered graphite on the gears. Stuff like oil, Tri-flo or WD-40 attracts gunk like crazy.

Oct 21, 2021 - 8:18:52 PM

180 posts since 11/24/2019

I put Hipshot tuners on my Gretsch and have not regretted it one bit.

If you want to try lubing your tuners, teflon powder is a really great choice. It's not messy like graphite.

Oct 22, 2021 - 8:21:51 AM

1684 posts since 4/27/2009

Have any of you that have the locking tuners had problems with strings breaking when coming up to pitch? I had another brand and it broke strings quite often right at the tuner.
Thanks!

Oct 22, 2021 - 9:51:19 AM

psikes

USA

104 posts since 4/14/2010

No problems here and that is with using the Doubleshot also.

Oct 22, 2021 - 10:41:02 AM

badger

USA

577 posts since 8/10/2008

I've got Planet Waves locking tuners - never broken a string. You do need to be careful to insert the string in the right direction...

Oct 22, 2021 - 12:25:08 PM

Bob78

Canada

53 posts since 8/18/2019

I just ordered the hipshot tuners, I will keep you posted.
Once again, thank you for the suggestions, bob

Oct 24, 2021 - 11:20:44 AM

LukeL

USA

236 posts since 5/11/2018

I have planet waves auto trim locking tuners on two of mine and really like them.

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