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Dec 30, 2021 - 9:35:45 AM
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psikes

USA

154 posts since 4/14/2010

If anyone is seriously looking for a new Beard then go over to the Guitar Sanctuary and take a look at the new eye candy.

theguitarsanctuary.com/

The blue one is absolutely stunning. No affiliation at all other than a very happy customer.

Phil

Dec 30, 2021 - 7:40:01 PM

485 posts since 1/29/2013

That's the most high end Beard squareneck's in stock at GS I think I've ever seen. Some special legacy builds. I wonder what show those where built for? 
 

The only thing I don't like at GS is they install the pitch change bridge on everyone they sell. I guess that's a good thing but it's all I can do to learn one tuning!

My time is coming for a new Beard...

Dec 30, 2021 - 8:51:19 PM
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psikes

USA

154 posts since 4/14/2010

That open D tuning might just surprise you at how easy it is to get started and make some music. I would not take for my Beard JD Signature with the Hipshot bridge. I’m sure not great in either tuning but I sure do enjoy both.

Dec 31, 2021 - 10:13:14 AM

Balsanova

Canada

48 posts since 1/22/2013

I looked at the pictures of the midnight blue guitar. It looks to me that the back was not made from book matched pieces of wood. For the price that would be unacceptable to me. Maybe it's just my old eyes?

Edited by - Balsanova on 12/31/2021 10:14:32

Dec 31, 2021 - 10:51:25 AM
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psikes

USA

154 posts since 4/14/2010

Wow, after a closer look I tend to agree with you on the back not being book matched. I guess it could be the angle of the pictures too. If I was interested in it I would ask for more and better photos of the back to be sure. They are very accommodating folks.

Phil

Dec 31, 2021 - 11:59:29 AM
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psikes

USA

154 posts since 4/14/2010

I did reach out to the Guitar Sanctuary and the back is so highly reflective that they have a hard time getting a good photo. They did message me some better photos of the back. I do have some other photos they sent if anyone is interested


 

Dec 31, 2021 - 1:25:22 PM

3970 posts since 7/27/2008

Beard is installing the DoubleShot, commonly referred to as a Hipshot only - which is the name of the company which produces dozens of products. It would be like referring to a guitar made by Gibson as a Gibson only, without saying which model it is (Les Paul? ES-335? J-45?).  

I think this is the niche Guitar Sanctuary has as  Beard dealer. They order a lot of high end exotic guitars from Paul like one could get if you go direct, whereas many  other Beard dealers typically keep it closer to more standard versions of the different models. 

I love the blue guitar, but the new photo from Phil doesn't make a very good case for it looking more "normal."  I would just have to take their word for it  that there is nothing weird going on with back and they just aren't able to pull it off as far as getting an accurate photo. 

The closest Beard dealer to me is two hours south, Gryphon in Palo Alto. They sell a bazillion high end flattops to guitar playing Silicon Valley types with deep pockets, but the sales manager told me one time he avoids bringing in high end Beard models because he doesn't think he can sell them. 

Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 12/31/2021 13:26:26

Dec 31, 2021 - 1:58:07 PM

2286 posts since 8/3/2008

Look carefully and you'll the figuring matches perfectly but stained "inversely" for effect.
h

Dec 31, 2021 - 2:18:17 PM
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psikes

USA

154 posts since 4/14/2010

They sent me 4 different photos and each one presents a little differently.

Dec 31, 2021 - 3:23:43 PM

3970 posts since 7/27/2008

Rather than starting a new thread, and Howard no doubt could help with this one - it has been a bunch of years since I have played a Jerry Douglas E body model with a baffle, and a non-baffle open body E model side-by-side.

Can anyone articulate the differences? 

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Jan 1, 2022 - 10:19:36 AM

224 posts since 1/3/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Balsanova

I looked at the pictures of the midnight blue guitar. It looks to me that the back was not made from book matched pieces of wood. For the price that would be unacceptable to me. Maybe it's just my old eyes?


I'm a little surprised that some of the builders here haven't chimed in on this. I've said before that I'm a "shade tree" builder, but I've made enough reso's with book matched backs to have a reasonable understanding of the "Ins" and "outs" of putting things together.

It's true that in the case of Beard's blue paint job that lighting may skew perception. I've taken a lot of pictures trying to capture the wood on my guitars and as hard as I try to get the lighting to cooperate I seldom get a satisfactory photo. With that type of experience behind me It's my opinion (for what it's worth) that Beard did an excellent job on the book match.

Having said that, I'm also convinced that a perfect match ain't never gonna happen. It's difficult to explain if one has never tried but it has to with how the board is cut and sanded and how lighting is reflected from the cross grained surface (similar to the "nap" on a carpet).

For example, below is a picture of a Scheerhorn. Look at it with the same critical eye as with the Beard and you start to see the same "flaws".


Jan 1, 2022 - 10:42:25 AM

677 posts since 1/18/2012

Is that a “nati-horn”, or a Tim built?

Jan 1, 2022 - 12:03:55 PM

3970 posts since 7/27/2008

Jan 1, 2022 - 3:52:03 PM

Balsanova

Canada

48 posts since 1/22/2013

This is not a simple case of lighting playing tricks on my eyes. I downloaded the picture and blew it up for more detail. Howard is correct. The sides are book matched perfectly and inversely stained for effect. Like I said before, I'm learning new things every day. If anyone wants a blown up picture let me know and I'll send it to you. Thanks Howard.

Jan 1, 2022 - 7:24:27 PM

16 posts since 11/29/2008

Hi Dennis AKA Balsanova,
I respect that the way the grain of the wood casts the light differently from one half to the other is unacceptable to you. However, I would not call it a defect at all. It is simply the effect of grain runout on the edge of the plate. The faces of the two halves can be perfectly bookmatched but still have edge grain runout which can cause the light to be absorbed on one half but reflected by the other half…..
until you turn it around and then it reverses. Jason’s carpet analogy holds true. Or, even the stripes on a freshly mowed baseball field.
If you are so inclined, you can read a very good article about the phenomenon by the great Frank Ford here. frets.com/FretsPages/General/G...nout.html

Jan 4, 2022 - 8:20:22 AM
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Hey guys! First post here, but I've been reading for a while. I'm a utility player, been a longtime pedal steeler and fiddler, but just got into dobro a year ago. Really enjoy it and took to it relatively quick coming from steel, so in May I went all in and ordered a Beard Josh Swift Signature from Shane at Guitar Sanctuary and it arrived yesterday. It just completely blows me away in every aspect. I'd only played a Copper Mtn that's mine and a buddy's Fishook once. I really didn't know they could sound or play this good/easy. And the tone!!

Saw the thread about GS and just thought I'd chime in with my experience. I live two hours from Dallas, but Shane text and called throughout the order and build to let me know how it was going. Fantastic customer service. I couldn't be happier. I'm crazy about the purple! The color changes depending on the angle you're looking at it. It's just gorgeous. I learned a lot reading through threads on here before ordering and am so glad I did. Happy New Year!


 

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