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May 6, 2022 - 11:45:41 AM
14 posts since 10/21/2020

I was hoping someone could help me I have a Johnson tricone. I didn't pay much for it and it plays great really I've done some cleaning on the inside and checking some things out. I have a slight Buzz sometimes when I'm about Midway up the neck but it's not a fret buzz. I'm wondering after inspecting the cones I noticed that the holes where the bridge sets in are a little wallered out could this be where my Buzz is coming from or does it make any difference. I was thinking about a new cones but I like the sound of the ones that are in there it's just I want it to be as good as it can be. And I wish they would stamp some kind of thing on these cones so I can tell who made them. Thanks for any help

May 7, 2022 - 8:33:45 AM

357 posts since 9/24/2014

A buzz or rattle in a reso can be very hard to find, I've torn Dobro's apart before only to discover it's a tuner! The cones not being seated well could definitely cause this,as could a loose cover plate screw or any number of things. Good luck.
If your Johnson is a later one with inlayed logo instead of a decal, it's probably got Continental cones.

May 7, 2022 - 10:38:50 AM

tomkatb

USA

391 posts since 1/31/2015

On my recording king I had a real luthier hot rod it.

New Quarterman cones, strings and hard maple bridge.

He also removed all paint from the spider. I do not know what else he did. Worth the $325 or so.

I did this to give it to my son. I regret giving it to him now. Big time.

May 7, 2022 - 2:34:14 PM

14 posts since 10/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Wildeman

A buzz or rattle in a reso can be very hard to find, I've torn Dobro's apart before only to discover it's a tuner! The cones not being seated well could definitely cause this,as could a loose cover plate screw or any number of things. Good luck.
If your Johnson is a later one with inlayed logo instead of a decal, it's probably got Continental cones.


May 7, 2022 - 2:36:11 PM

14 posts since 10/21/2020

Thanks for the response wild man. Yeah I've checked everything the only thing I can figure is the tiny holes in the top of the cones are a little wallered out. But I don't know if that's what it is because the Key Bridge keeps pressure on top of those cones so I don't know if it would make a difference I was just seeing if anybody else and had that problem. Thanks again

May 7, 2022 - 2:39:03 PM

14 posts since 10/21/2020

Thanks for your input Tomcat. Yeah I'm looking at putting some different cones in there and I have heard of sanding down that Tee Bridge but I don't know if that really makes that much difference what do you think since you had it done

May 7, 2022 - 5:15:58 PM

Anonyrat

Australia

14 posts since 3/28/2022

Wildeman is correct in saying that some of these buzzes can be hard to track down !
A couple of months ago I got a "buzz" from the 5th string on my Taylor acoustic. It took me two days to track it down and it was a broken string. The outer had parted but the inner was still intact. It was impossible to see but it happened at certain frequencies. A new string and all was well. It could be an obscure thing like this, easy to check lowering one string at a time to see if it goes away.

May 7, 2022 - 6:05:40 PM

tomkatb

USA

391 posts since 1/31/2015

My modified tricone was likely 100% louder after the mods.

When I picked the guitar up my dear wife and her buddy went with me.

They are both Chemistry/Physics teachers. Smart ladies. Frank Harlow the luthier was a truck driver. Part time musician.

They talked about the paint and laminated bridge that was on the guitar. All three thought these mods would make it louder! Played with tuning forks, cone and spider bridges, and a hammer. It was entertaining.

The difference between the Quarterman cone and the Continental was substantial.

Frank complained about how long it took to get the paint off.

May 7, 2022 - 11:49:39 PM
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357 posts since 9/24/2014

I'll second the paint removal, I did it to my Republic along with the mushroom mod and it improved things big time. I've only done the mushroom mod on my Johnson still need to strip the paint and get rid of the ebony capped saddle, the Republic sounds worlds better even though they both have Continental cones and are essentially the same guitar.

May 8, 2022 - 9:44:22 AM
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wlgiii

USA

1358 posts since 9/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Wildeman

A buzz or rattle in a reso can be very hard to find, I've torn Dobro's apart before only to discover it's a tuner! 


Whew! I'm not the only one who's done this.

May 8, 2022 - 12:08:47 PM

14 posts since 10/21/2020

quote:Originally posted by WildemanI'll second the paint removal, I did it to my Republic along with the mushroom mod and it improved things big time. I've only done the mushroom mod on my Johnson still need to strip the paint and get rid of the ebony capped saddle, the Republic sounds worlds better even though they both have Continental cones and are essentially the same guitar.

May 8, 2022 - 12:09:14 PM

14 posts since 10/21/2020

What is a mushroom mod and how do you do it?

May 8, 2022 - 3:20:44 PM

1718 posts since 4/27/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Anonyrat

Wildeman is correct in saying that some of these buzzes can be hard to track down !
A couple of months ago I got a "buzz" from the 5th string on my Taylor acoustic. It took me two days to track it down and it was a broken string. The outer had parted but the inner was still intact. It was impossible to see but it happened at certain frequencies. A new string and all was well. It could be an obscure thing like this, easy to check lowering one string at a time to see if it goes away.


I had the same experience a couple of weeks ago. The winding on the string had broken at the saddle and I couldn't see it until I replaced the strings. I was happy that was all it was!

May 8, 2022 - 6:48:15 PM

357 posts since 9/24/2014

quote:
Originally posted by KennyBanks

What is a mushroom mod and how do you do it?


It's simply spreading out the two outside neck stick supports (mushrooms) and removing the middle one. Some guys think it don't do anything, I like it myself.

May 9, 2022 - 9:34:50 AM

14 posts since 10/21/2020

Thanks. I think I'll give it a try

May 14, 2022 - 9:21:42 AM

357 posts since 9/24/2014

I see Beard is now selling a Tricone set for a very reasonable 75 bux, I may just have to try a set.

Jun 14, 2022 - 7:09:34 AM

4 posts since 9/15/2021

quote:
Originally posted by KennyBanks

Thanks for your input Tomcat. Yeah I'm looking at putting some different cones in there and I have heard of sanding down that Tee Bridge but I don't know if that really makes that much difference what do you think since you had it done


"Sanding" is not a good move as there is no need to be rough with the light aluminum T bridge, but stripping the paint makes a surprisingly noticeable difference to the response and over all tone of the guitar. That thick black paint seemingly soaks up alot of the vibration, that should otherwise be transferred to the cones

A few applications of a good quality paint stripper does the trick, no need for sanding

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