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Aug 29, 2022 - 4:37:39 PM
4 posts since 7/3/2022

Newbie to resonator guitar that started with a recording king led better and then acquired a gretsch 9210 boxcar for the wider nut and slightly wider string spacing. The gretsch is remarkably easier to play clean clear notes while It seems very difficult to eliminate unwanted overtones on the ledbetter. I'm wondering if this is due to soundwell versus soundpost construction or are there set up issues I should be looking at. Both have the same da'ddario strings.

Aug 29, 2022 - 4:51:09 PM
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badger

USA

624 posts since 8/10/2008

Setup. Try damping the strings between bridge and tailpiece, also maybe between nut and bridge. Make sure screws are tight everywhere. If it seems to be limited to a particular string, try swapping the string out. Soundwell vs. posts isn't the cause.

Aug 29, 2022 - 7:04:03 PM

4158 posts since 7/27/2008

Good advice from badger, and an interesting take from Gary on the RK Leadbetter vs. the Gretsch. 

I have never owned either, though I kick around buying one of the Asian imports as a possible take-on-vacation or campfire reso. 

I've played quite a few of the Gretsch resos in stores over the years and only a couple of the Leadbetters, but not having owned either I don't have any awareness of the overtone business in the Phil model. As far as overall sound and looks, to me it's no contest - the RK blows the Gretsch out of the water. No surprise, the Boxcar without the Fishman  pickup is ballpark half the price of the RK, and a few hundred bucks goes a long way with these Asian imports. 

Gary did mention the string spacing with the narrower  nut on the RK, and I still can't figure out why they spec'd that guitar with a 1 3/4" nut.,

Aug 30, 2022 - 3:46:25 AM
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13 posts since 7/31/2021

It's mostly in one's head, I found. I was chided by someone for posting this, but I quote myself from a previous thread:

"I just measured, and the total difference of *string* "width" or "span" at the nut is only 3 millimeters. At the average area over the cover plate where my fingers fall, there is hardly a difference."

The Leadbetter string spacing at the nut hardly makes a difference, as the bridge is standard. It's all a matter of radii and, frankly, the strings spread out to almost "normal" by the end of the neck.

Play that 'Leadbetter and have fun! It's a great guitar!

Aug 30, 2022 - 4:24:43 AM

13 posts since 7/31/2021

And I am sorry, Gary...as far as any overtones, it will take someone brighter than me to really assist. I just ain't the sharpest toaster in the aquarium.

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Edited by - Martinipen on 08/30/2022 04:26:00

Aug 30, 2022 - 6:46:20 AM

badger

USA

624 posts since 8/10/2008

Take a good look at your technique too - make sure that your blocking technique is the same on both instruments, though I'd be puzzled as to why it would change. Aside from blocking, maintain the habit of letting the heel and little finger of your left hand drag behind the bar to damp that section of the strings.

Do you notice the overtones more on particular strings or notes?

Aug 30, 2022 - 7:07:01 AM

4 posts since 7/3/2022

Badger, it is all strings. It just seems that I need to be more deliberate or maybe more precise with the Ledbetter and since I play each pretty much the same way I guess I was looking at different physical characteristics such as different style of tailpieces. On my banjos, having good contact between the tailpiece and the rim deadens the overtones so I was thinking maybe the relation of the tailpiece to the cover plate. I certainly agree the ledbetter is a better build and I just wanted to correct anything I can. Inevitably it's probably just gonna come down to experience

Aug 30, 2022 - 1:39:39 PM

badger

USA

624 posts since 8/10/2008

Any chance of posting some sound clips?

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