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Apr 10, 2024 - 2:06:39 PM
636 posts since 11/28/2012

For those who cross over between square neck resonator and electric lap steel…

What lap steel models do you find offer the most similar string spacing and feel as compared to square neck reso? Specifically, 1) nut width somewhere in the 1 7/8 - 2” zone, 2) bridge string spacing around 2 1/4” or so. Scale length is of lesser importance, but 24-25” is ideal. Pickup cover/palm rest would also be ideal, but not mandatory.

Asher and Lap King are promising. Any others from this crew?

Yeah, I may try posting in SGF at some point, but wanted to check with a reso community first.

BTW, I do play some lap steel. I am not fond of narrow strings and non-tapered string setups. It messes me up spatially when I switch back and forth. (I also failed at 8-string resonator for same reason…). Hence the inquiry.

Thanks much!

P.S. - if this post is not appropriate for RH forum, moderator or I can delete.

Apr 10, 2024 - 5:33:02 PM
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PeterJ

USA

165 posts since 8/5/2008

I prefer dobro string spacing (11/32" between strings, 1 3/4" 1st to 6th) on my lap steels, but it seems like 3/8" spacing (string to string) is preferred by a lot of people on steel. I replaced the nuts on all my steels so they're all at dobro spacing.

For new steels, the Gold Tone LS-6 is 25" scale, but I don't know the spacing. I believe IndustrialGuitar has made a dobro-spec steel in the past, including a 25" scale, so that's a possibility too.

Apr 10, 2024 - 5:52:48 PM
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783 posts since 1/18/2012

I have an Asher Electro Hawaiian Jr
And a Duesenberg Fairytale.
Both are pretty close to dobro spacing
N=Nut B=Bridge

Asher: N 1 3/4” x B 2 1/4”

Duesy N 1.67” x B 2.13”

An Ickes Natihorn is
N 1.87” B 2 1/4” 

Edited by - Lounge Primate on 04/10/2024 17:53:11

Apr 11, 2024 - 6:05:51 AM

636 posts since 11/28/2012

Thank you both! Ah yes, the Gold Tone LS-6, had forgotten that one, looks promising.

The Duesy looks compelling as well. 2.13” bridge string spacing might be doable, I’ll need to noodle that. Truth be told, installing benders is one of the moves I have in mind…this would streamline that into one purchase.

Many thanks.

Apr 11, 2024 - 6:15:47 AM
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529 posts since 1/14/2012

Peavey Powerslide if you can find one at a reasonable price. I sometimes wish I still had mine…

Apr 11, 2024 - 6:48:17 AM
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783 posts since 1/18/2012

Jamie, for what it’s worth, the Asher with the belly bar plays very much like a dobro. It just feels familiar. The Duesenberg, not so much. The Duessy’s fittings and finish is really top shelf…..but it just seems like a different intstrument, not dobro like.

The Asher plays like a dobro with a turbo under the hood. If forced to choose, I’d take the Asher.

Apr 11, 2024 - 8:13:32 AM

636 posts since 11/28/2012

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Originally posted by Lounge Primate

Jamie, for what it’s worth, the Asher with the belly bar plays very much like a dobro. It just feels familiar. The Duesenberg, not so much. The Duessy’s fittings and finish is really top shelf…..but it just seems like a different intstrument, not dobro like.

The Asher plays like a dobro with a turbo under the hood. If forced to choose, I’d take the Asher.


Thank you.  I'm likely going to buy an Asher Jr and install a double bender.  I appreciate your insights!

Apr 11, 2024 - 8:15:34 AM
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636 posts since 11/28/2012

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Originally posted by FrederickPatterson

Peavey Powerslide if you can find one at a reasonable price. I sometimes wish I still had mine…


Thanks, yeah, cool lap steels.  I've tried these though, and for standing, they didn't "slot" comfortably against my hip/belly.  Gotta love these though!

Apr 11, 2024 - 1:00:55 PM
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lap dog

USA

32 posts since 9/25/2020

For what its worth I have two old National lap steels, a 1941 New Yorker and a 1952 Dynamic both made by Valco back in the day. The spacing at the nut is 1 3/4 inches and the bridge is 2 1/16 inches on both.

Love the older style pick ups on these Valco made antiques!

Apr 13, 2024 - 3:47:50 AM

356 posts since 8/24/2013

Your eyes and fingers can get together in string spacing. Working the dobro or a lap steel can lead to good results.

Apr 13, 2024 - 7:39:58 AM

636 posts since 11/28/2012

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Originally posted by little ray

Your eyes and fingers can get together in string spacing. Working the dobro or a lap steel can lead to good results.


No question about it.  I have lap steels with narrower string spacing and shorter scales.  I can get in a groove on it...but I don't like the feel, and a quick transfer back to Dobro results in some clunkers while my fingers and brain re-adjust to wider spacing.  I figure why not just minimize the variables with one of the lap steel models with wider spacing/longer scale.

Most cross-over players apparently don't suffer this affliction...lol.  I really don't like narrow spacing at the bridge.  Even 1/4" bridge difference is quite noticeable to me.

Thanks.

Edited by - JC Dobro on 04/13/2024 07:42:23

Apr 13, 2024 - 6:23:44 PM
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112 posts since 3/20/2015

I also have an Asher Electro-Hawaiian Jr and it feels pretty much just like my Beard and Nati-Horn. I think that would be a safe choice if the main goal is to feel like a dobro. And it's well built and sounds good with the stock electronics. I've never added a belly bar so I can't speak to that.

Apr 13, 2024 - 10:55:12 PM

636 posts since 11/28/2012

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Originally posted by mesmithut

I also have an Asher Electro-Hawaiian Jr and it feels pretty much just like my Beard and Nati-Horn. I think that would be a safe choice if the main goal is to feel like a dobro. And it's well built and sounds good with the stock electronics. I've never added a belly bar so I can't speak to that.


Thanks Mark!  Very helpful info.  

May 3, 2024 - 8:05:05 AM
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636 posts since 11/28/2012

I opted for an Asher Electro Hawaiian Jr. They had a sale on the blue version, so I applied the savings toward a Hipshot bender assembly. Loads of fun! Great sounding lap steel, and yes, the string spacing is perfect for me.

Many thanks for the tips above!


May 3, 2024 - 12:18:58 PM

1749 posts since 4/27/2009

I really like my Electro Hawaiian but I hated the pickups so I replaced them immediately.

May 3, 2024 - 12:33:32 PM

636 posts since 11/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Terry Harris

I really like my Electro Hawaiian but I hated the pickups so I replaced them immediately.


It'll take me a few days to form a good opinion.  The pickups are certainly different than the single coils I'm used to on lap steels.  What did you replace 'em with?

May 3, 2024 - 4:15:44 PM
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1749 posts since 4/27/2009

Seymour Duncan, Seth Lover at the neck and a Seymour Dubncan Custom Custom at the bridge

May 4, 2024 - 4:02:16 AM

636 posts since 11/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Terry Harris

Seymour Duncan, Seth Lover at the neck and a Seymour Dubncan Custom Custom at the bridge


Thanks much!  Those look like great options.

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