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Apr 28, 2025 - 11:27:14 AM
17 posts since 4/28/2025

Hello. New member here. I play a 2020 Mule stainless steel tricone, round neck, standard position (not lap position). I love the sound of and play in Open D tuning.
I have been getting more into gypsy jazz type music as of late. I would like to know if anybody has any song and/or scale tablature they wouldn’t mind sharing. I thank you for your time and look forward to your response.

Edited by - J on 04/28/2025 23:52:00

Apr 28, 2025 - 12:00:03 PM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

Just to be clear up front, from the guitar in your photo I'm guessing you are talking roundneck, regular or "Spanish style" as opposed to lap style with a steel bar. 

The majority of the members here play lap style,  so you want to get your method established as a new member or you might receive a number of replies unrelated to what you're interested in pursuing. 

Oh - and  how about  adding at least your first name to your profile. There's no way anyone is going to remember your screen "handle" when addressing you in a post. smiley
 

Apr 28, 2025 - 6:06:23 PM

4980 posts since 7/27/2008

...and I'm guessing you go by Cousin Al?

Apr 28, 2025 - 6:35:22 PM
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777 posts since 11/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by MarkinSonoma

...and I'm guessing you go by Cousin Al?


Lol...I read the handle as stainless steel (304), copper, zinc, aluminum.

OK back to topic :)

Apr 28, 2025 - 10:03:30 PM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

I completely spaced out on the 304 stainless steel. 

But I'm still going with his use of elements for "Cousin Al." wink

Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 04/28/2025 22:04:03

Apr 29, 2025 - 12:08:35 AM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

quote:
Originally posted by JC Dobro
quote:
Originally posted by MarkinSonoma

...and I'm guessing you go by Cousin Al?


Lol...I read the handle as stainless steel (304), copper, zinc, aluminum.

OK back to topic :)


You are correct. SS, Co/Zn(Brass), and Aluminum. My favorite resophonic recipe.

Apr 29, 2025 - 12:13:55 AM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

quote:
Originally posted by MarkinSonoma

...and I'm guessing you go by Cousin Al?


Good guess, but no. Changed username to make it easier. 

May 2, 2025 - 3:31:20 AM
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581 posts since 1/14/2012

Please give some examples of what gypsy jazz is for the uncultured among us.....smiley

Edited by - FrederickPatterson on 05/02/2025 03:32:31

May 2, 2025 - 9:53:49 AM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

I haven't forgotten about you J. But I'm finding out (so far) that playing gypsy jazz in an open tuning like D just isn't out there.

Check out this thread from The Steel Guitar Forum. Author and lap steel enthusiast Andy Volk tabbed out the introduction to Danse Norvegienne, a well known number from Django Reinhardt, but it's a modern take from the great gypsy jazz player Robin Nolan. He's doing it in Open D on lap steel, but since the tuning for lap is that same as "Spanish style" it may be of some use to you. He has a link to Robin teaching it on Youtube, but Robin is in standard tuning. 

Andy created a Midi version on lap steel, but it was on Picsosong, which is no more. Maybe he has it on his website, I'll check it out.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=327320

May 2, 2025 - 10:09:37 AM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by FrederickPatterson

Please give some examples of what gypsy jazz is for the uncultured among us.....smiley


I see that J posted a documentary on Django Reinhardt in the video section, I'll check it out later since it's over 50 minutes.

In the meantime check out  out this cool short film of just over six minutes from 1938 featuring gypsy jazz pioneers Django Reinhardt and Stéphane Grappelli. The narrator does a spiel on the evolution of jazz for the first couple minutes, the gypsy jazz part kicks in at the 2:25 mark. I saw Grappelli play with David Grisman in the Bay Area in the late 1970s.

Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 05/02/2025 10:10:49

May 2, 2025 - 10:32:04 AM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

Here is a track from our North Carolina dobro buddy Billy Cardine.  Bill recorded a CD in 2012 of jazz/swing tunes. 

No - not Open D - it's standard lap style dobro tuning Open G (GBDGBD). It gives one a taste of of playing this style of music on a resonator.  

 

May 2, 2025 - 10:48:29 AM
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581 posts since 1/14/2012

Good stuff, Mark. Thanks!

May 2, 2025 - 1:29:44 PM
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J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

Sorry gentlemen. My mistake on putting the video in the wrong place. Thank you for your replies and the link MarkinSonoma. I will dive into it after getting The Grateful Dead’s “Ripple” from a transcription in Open D tuning on dobro. Good stuff. My next request was going to and will be the Grateful Dead tune “China Cat Sunflower” in Open D tuning on.

Here are two of my favorite manouche guitarists. Boulou Ferre’ and Stochelo Rosenberg.
youtu.be/_RqM72fk75E?si=teXfSi4mmoJfjjt1

youtu.be/Vu4tELCMBx4?si=t6ic24Dk9Z0iEjFg

May 3, 2025 - 8:22:16 AM
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Brian E

USA

9 posts since 8/6/2017

The great Oscar Aleman played "Gypsy Jazz" with a National Style 2 for a while. Terrific player.
https://oscar-aleman.blogspot.com/2010/08/guitars-of-oscar-aleman.html

May 7, 2025 - 9:33:26 AM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

Edited by - J on 05/07/2025 09:34:16

May 7, 2025 - 11:43:16 AM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

The crickets are out because this is a topic that is of course pretty obscure and it's difficult to find  anything about it in the gypsy jazz world. It's sort of in the same category as when members will post a TAB request of lap style dobro for some pop/rock songs - probably never been done, or at least anyone who may have created a version for their own use haven't  gotten around to posting it onine.

But I did come up something today - not on a resonator but on a flattop tuned to Open D. Might be of some use, and at least worth checking out:

 

Edited by - MarkinSonoma on 05/07/2025 11:44:21

May 7, 2025 - 1:16:27 PM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

Thank you @MarkinSonoma . Much appreciated.

Yeah, I thought the gypsy jazz in open D tuning request was a long shot. Never hurts to ask though.

I appreciate the replies.

May 7, 2025 - 2:35:45 PM
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4980 posts since 7/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by J

Sorry gentlemen. My mistake on putting the video in the wrong place. Thank you for your replies and the link MarkinSonoma. I will dive into it after getting The Grateful Dead’s “Ripple” from a transcription in Open D tuning on dobro. Good stuff. My next request was going to and will be the Grateful Dead tune “China Cat Sunflower” in Open D tuning on.

Here are two of my favorite manouche guitarists. Boulou Ferre’ and Stochelo Rosenberg.
youtu.be/_RqM72fk75E?si=teXfSi4mmoJfjjt1

youtu.be/Vu4tELCMBx4?si=t6ic24Dk9Z0iEjFg


I particularly enjoyed The Rosenberg Family performing Caravan.

One time after a show about 18 years ago I was visiting with Rob Ickes, who really loves jazz and a lot of it comes out in his dobro playing. I asked him who his  favorite jazz guitarists are and have they influenced him. He told me his was big on John Scofield who of course I knew about, and also that he was way into Biréli Lagrène  - who I knew nothing about at the time. The following week I bought a couple of his CDs and have been a fan ever since.

Longtime Deadhead here, though not at obsessive level head like some friends of mine have been over the years. But I saw them live with Garcia many times, including many memorable shows at Winterland in San Francisco. 

A few years back at our smallish Sonoma County  Folk and Bluegrass Festival I was in a jam circle on dobro with a number of younger folks,  millennials and Gen Z folks. Being near ground zero for the Dead, with Mickey Hart living fairly close by, and down the freeway toward SF lived Bobby Weir as did the late Phil Lesh,  it was my turn to call a song. These younger folks knew their traditional bluegrass like Bill Monroe, but I called for Friend of the Devil - thinking this is pretty much a full on bluegrass song, and it was already over 50 years old. 

Not one of them knew the song.

May 7, 2025 - 3:14:15 PM
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We usually get some of the tie-dye set at our local gigs, mostly crossovers “Dawg” grass (Grisman) type genre fans. To get them twirly dancing, we’ll throw in a few Dead tunes (or tunes the Dead covered). Friend of the Devil, Deal, Rider, Ragged but Right, etc. They work well within an uptempo bluegrass context.

Speaking of the GD, I arranged a few Open D square neck versions of tunes on my YT channel. OP, you can find those if you search JC Dobro. They’re beginner to intermediate. If you’re playing round neck, probably minimal value.

As Mark mentioned earlier, many of these songs are “gettable” by virtue of knowing chord progressions and finding the melody notes embedded therein. Don’t be afraid to transpose keys to take advantage of open strings.

Cheers.

May 7, 2025 - 4:37:57 PM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

I can believe that traditional bluegrass musicians didn’t know a Dead tune. I was born and raised in bluegrass country near Galax and Bristol Va/Tn. The vast majority of musicians in the area play two types of music, bluegrass and country. Like many jazz players, their playing revolves around a set of standard tunes, only they are bluegrass standards.

Bluegrass has never really interested me. I am a blues/jam band lover at heart. Lifelong Allman Brothers Band and Widespread Panic fan. I saw the Brothers numerous times between 1989-2014. I saw Phil Lesh and Friends a few times and the Dead with Garcia in 1988. Great music and times.

My goal is to keep diving into blues,gypsy jazz, Arabic musics in open D tuning and mixing them up with jam band music in open D tuning. I would like to move away from standard tuning to only open tunings.

Thanks for the heads up @JCDobro. I will take a look.

May 8, 2025 - 4:21:56 PM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

Hello. It has been a musically productive day. I was able to tab 100 chords in my blank chord chart book, many in four positions, in open D tuning. I have spent the better part of this afternoon working with the Klezmer scale and writing it out in tab in my guitar tab notebook, which led to many interesting discoveries.

All in all, a great day. I am blessed. Thanks again for the help.

May 14, 2025 - 2:18:58 PM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

Hello. I have been working transposing some commonly used gypsy jazz/manouche scales in open D tuning in a few different keys. Here they are if interested.

May 14, 2025 - 2:53:20 PM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

quote:
Originally posted by J

Hello. I have been working transposing some commonly used gypsy jazz/manouche scales in open D tuning in a few different keys. Here they are if interested.


May 14, 2025 - 5:11:36 PM

J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

And some commonly used chords in gypsy jazz/manouche in open D tuning.

May 15, 2025 - 2:28:24 PM
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J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

May 15, 2025 - 2:35:31 PM
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J

17 posts since 4/28/2025

And most common used chords for gypsy jazz in Open D tuning.


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