I had the same problem with the Hipshot on my Beard E Model. I was getting ringing between the bridge and the Hipshot, and also between the roller nut (which tends to propagate transfer of vibration) and the tuners.

In addition to dampeners at the bridge, I found it necessary to use dampeners on the four longest string sections between the nut and the tuners.

I use those same grommets between strings 4 & 5, and between strings 2 & 3. Strings 1 and 6 at the nut are so short that they don't ring much if at all. For the bridge dampener, I use a piece of 1/4" OD clear firm medical tubing, which helps to make string changes go faster.

Cool, yeah, I just tried the grommets on the string sections above the nut. Muting 2, 3, 4, and 5 kills about 90% of the ring, so that's a good option also. Thanks.

Funny thing. I listened to the YouTube vid I posted, and most of the ringy overtones don't come through in the vid. It's 5 times louder in person, and through a condenser mic, and even on my raw phone video. Maybe some of those frequencies are filtered out when YT compresses files for the video uploads.

In any event, nice to be able to easily clean up those overtones.

On my DIY install of the Hipshot & roller nuts, there are no overtones, which I attribute to pure dumb luck…..but I wonder if the felt cocktail coaster that I cut to fit under the tailpiece of the Hipshot (under the roller portion) had something to do with it staying ‘clean’ ?

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Originally posted by Lounge Primate

On my DIY install of the Hipshot & roller nuts, there are no overtones, which I attribute to pure dumb luck…..but I wonder if the felt cocktail coaster that I cut to fit under the tailpiece of the Hipshot (under the roller portion) had something to do with it staying ‘clean’ ?

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I would think any time you damp metal-on-metal contact, it would help in this regard.  That said, I also have felt material under my tailpieces, and still get overtones without the grommets/muting wraps.  Not sure which resonator you have, but I've noticed the Legend cones can be very "lively".

I did the DIY job on a Wechter Scheerhorn/Ickes model, and installed a Scheerhorn cone that I purchased from National.

You think the cone would cause the overtones on yours?

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Originally posted by Lounge Primate

I did the DIY job on a Wechter Scheerhorn/Ickes model, and installed a Scheerhorn cone that I purchased from National.

You think the cone would cause the overtones on yours?

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I'm not an expert, but my guess would be that lots of things contribute to overall overtone behavior -  construction, cone, components, strings, setup...

Here's what's interesting though.  I have a heavily modded Rob Ickes Wechter-Scheerhorn with Hipshot DoubleShot, roller nut, locking tuners, and a Legend cone.  It most definitely has overtones if I'm not using the muting devices as described in my original post.

I never had a Scheerhorn cone it it (it was built up from body "shell" by Byrl Murdock), so can't comment on the cone by itself.  I will say that guitar is quite loud and responsive.

Kinda' geeky, but here's what the frequency spectra look like about 1/2 second after the chop.

Beard MA6 at left. Wechter-Scheerhorn at right.

Muted (grommets below bridge and above nut) in top graphs. Unmuted (no grommets) in bottom graphs.

Pretty significant overtone energy in 1khz - 2.2 khz range, depending on the guitar, when NOT using damping grommets.